Join host Ned Buskirk in conversation with New York Times best-selling illustrator & graphic journalist Wendy MacNaughton, talking about her book “How to Say Goodbye: The Wisdom of Hospice Caregivers,” combining drawings from her artist’s residency inside The Zen Hospice Project Guest House, with words of hospice caregivers she interviewed, including a list of The Five Things to help us say goodbye. wendy’s website: https://www.wendymacnaughton.com/ "The Grown-Ups Table" substack: https://substack.com/@drawtogether book - How to Say Goodbye: https://www.wendymacnaughton.com/illustration/how-to-say-goodbye Produced by Nick Jaina Soundscaping by Nick Jaina Associate Produced by Jasmine Pritchard ”YG2D Podcast Theme Song” by Nick Jaina THIS PODCAST IS MADE POSSIBLE WITH SUPPORT FROM LISTENERS LIKE YOU. Become a podcast patron now at https://www.patreon.com/YG2D.

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