In today's episode, Dr. Ben interviews John Burke. John is the author of Imagine the God of Heaven, Imagine Heaven, No Perfect People Allowed, Soul Revolution, and Unshockable Love. The founder with his wife, Kathy, of Gateway Church in Austin, Texas, John is also the president of Gateway Leadership Initiative (GLI), a nonprofit organization. As an international speaker, John has addressed hundreds of thousands of people in thirty countries on topics of leadership and spiritual growth. Dr. Ben and John discuss his book "Imagine Heaven" where John has spent years interviewing and researching people and hearing their story of near death experiences (NDEs), and what that tells us about God?

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