Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Good morning, Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. We're down a vaughan today. Down a vaughan. You could feel it happening yesterday. Yeah, bad sore throat. Is this the first of the great illnesses? Of the year. Vaughan's one of three illnesses he has every year. Always a summer flu. Always a summer flu. It's the May, June flu that gets him the worst. Man, remember when that knocked him out two weeks?
Yeah. Wow. Although the flu that I had over summer on my break, which came from like London and the UK. Influenza. Apparently horrible. It was like some nasty flu and the flu jab didn't do anything to stop that. Oh, well. So if that comes down here. Good luck. Good luck, because that was like two weeks of feeling like absolute shite. Is COVID still around? I don't know.
Vaughan messaged us yesterday and said he just did a COVID test. I was like, vintage. Retro, very retro.
Really? What a throwback.
Which would be great if you did get it, because there are still a few places with the posters up, so you can scan in with your QR code. I'd scan in, I'd let all my close contacts know to isolate, just in case. You've got the top six for us today. I'll take care of that. Sadly, there's been a lot of people withdrawing their KiwiSaver.
Yeah, the KiwiSaver is there for your retirement, your first home deposit, but you can withdraw it for hardship reasons if you needed to, which is great.
Yeah.
Right? And it's not great that people are needing to do it, but there's been a huge rise in them. But above those three reasons, nothing else. Yeah. So I've got the top six things that KiwiSaver won't let you withdraw your KiwiSaver for. Next on the show, a mall has a warning for people. Yeah, after a very silly stunt.
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Chapter 2: What are the top six things you can't use your KiwiSaver for?
100%.
But yeah, so basically the video they posted, just a daily reminder that no one cares. It's just like, you know, live your life. Don't do something silly. And is he doing butterfly or breaststroke?
Chapter 3: What silly stunt happened at a mall recently?
I think it's butterfly. A breaststroke in the first shot, butterfly in the second he changed.
Yeah, yeah.
One of the hardest strokes. Yeah, it is very hard.
Do you butterfly as a swimmer?
No, I can't do it. I've never butterflied. Never do it. It's terrible. Well, a spokesperson for Westfield Newmarket said that they are aware of the stunt in which a person climbed into a glass-bottomed rooftop and swam laps. above a multi-level light shaft. Yeah. Is what they're calling it. Oh, yeah. The spokesperson said, we are aware of the incident and vision.
Do you think they had a meeting to not say TikTok or Reel to encourage further TikToks and Reels? Driving it there and getting more people in there. I wonder if the vision is that just the guy took his clothes off and so he's in like little undies. And as he sort of swims across, you're like... There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on.
So apparently they go on to say that safety of shoppers is our highest priority and emphasise the water feature is not for swimming. So apparently police were called after the incident as well, but obviously the swimmers had run away by then. The city slickers. The city slickers. I... Okay, this is like... I find it quite funny, but I totally understand the safety thing.
But there's something so embarrassing about a glass bottom pool. Yeah. Because you see the little... Your little legs like wading water. Well, I will say the City Slickers have a long way to go. Five posts on Instagram, 3,000 followers. But how many times has that been viewed? Because when this story came out, it was 2.8 million. Yeah, millions. But why aren't people following the page?
I don't know. Maybe it's more popular on TikTok. You know, I went to Instagram Reels. Yeah, you did. Yeah, well, they're across both. Yeah, they are. Not that we're trying to drive traffic. No. To these larrikins. We're not encouraging the jackass of our future. Oh, my God, no. But if the next jackass did come from New Zealand, it would be pretty nasty.
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Chapter 4: How does Gen Z take care of their health differently?
Because it's like when you see your balance, because it just goes out of your pay and then every now and again, like I've got the app, I'll log on, I'll be like, oh my God. And then you're like mentally like, if I could withdraw that today. Like, what would I do with it? What would you do with it? I know. Because I'm not thinking about 65-year-old Hayley. Screw her.
No, I don't think I'll be around that long, to be honest. That's so sad because it's actually like not that far away. I know, it's not. It's miserable. Oh, God. I don't want to be in one of those Ryman buses, those rest home buses. You just see them. Hang on, though. I went to a retirement village recently and I was like, damn. Good fun. I think you have to have a lot of money.
Thus, a lot of money in your KiwiSaver for it. Exactly. Pool room, gym, swimming pool, lawn bowls, parties, bar cart. And they're all bonking each other. And they don't even care. No Connie's. You know what I mean? Who cares? Yeah, who cares? All right, I've got the top six things that you can't remove your KiwiSaver for. Number six, all your streaming services. They won't let you do it.
You're just going to have to keep on creating new emails and doing the free trials for the rest of your life. Yeah. Until you're 65 and you get the money legitimately. Yeah. Number five on the list of the top six things you can't remove your KiwiSaver for, a helicopter ride to Waiheke Island, darling, for a wine and cheese pairing. No.
Well, you can get the ferry if you're over 65 for free, can't you? Yes, but you can't get the copter on the KiwiSaver. You couldn't go to KiwiSaver and say, darling... Please. I can't afford it. Number four on the list of the top six things that you can't remove your KiwiSaver for. Flights to Bali for another genuine friend's holiday. Sorry, Vaughan. You just can't do it, no.
No, sorry.
No? I can't. I can't afford it again. God, how many holidays if you could just have your KiwiSaver, eh?
No.
Don't, because now I'm like, where would I go? Where would I go? Number three on the list of the top six things that you cannot remove your KiwiSaver money for, a life-size ceramic dog. No. Sorry, Herman. You just can't do it. I say that's not hardship. You'd love to complete the family, but it's not enough money. I mean, Shannon, we had a meeting yesterday.
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Chapter 5: What are the challenges of learning new skills as an adult?
I always see adults learning to swim when I swim at the pool. And it's so brave because some people just put it off. Because it would be like learning to ride a bike as an adult. Yeah, totally. You're just flailing around. A lot of people are learning to ride bikes late. I was in my 40s before I learned to stop caring about what anyone thinks of me.
I think that's just what happens when you get older, right?
We just don't care.
And you care less and less, and it's great. Oh, someone just watched Breaking Bad for the first time the other day. It's incredible, right? Enjoy. His new show, The Breaking Bad Pluribus, is incredible on Apple TV. I joined the fire service at 50 years old. I'm doing the first Sky Tower Challenge at 51. Good luck. Good luck. So many. I still haven't had Uber Eats. Someone said. Yeah, okay.
You're just not missing paying extra money. Someone texted and said, oh my God, you have to try McDonald's burgers. I didn't until I was 30 and now I'm locking loads. Anyway, so I had 20 minutes and so I went for a little walk down to the local park.
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Chapter 6: What humorous park experience did Hayley share?
You know the one just down the road, Vic Park? Oh, yeah. Beautiful. The sun was shining. Benches were open for me to sit on and whatnot. And I was just having a nice little time. And two things happened. One, I witnessed there were swings. Oh, yeah. I was like, man, I love a good swing. Carpe diem, you know, just really bask in the glory of the day.
Sat on a swing for ages, just swinging and swinging and just feeling really good. It was such a nice little mood booster. And I didn't realise that there was a mum waiting for the swings. She had the two kids and I was on the thing. And she was sat behind with the two kids.
And when I got up, I sort of turned around and saw that as soon as I got up, she like immediately went to the swings with her kids.
Right.
Like she'd been waiting. And I caught eyes as if to be like, oh, I didn't even see you there. And oh my God, the glare I got. Yeah. What, like disgust? Just like you grown woman sucking joy away from children. I mean, technically anyone can use the playground. Show me the age restriction. You didn't see a sign, did you? Didn't see one. Not for the swings. Yeah.
So that happened and I felt a bit bad. And then I felt a small urge to pee. And I was like, okay, before I go to this voiceover job, I'll pee. And I looked around and there was public toilets there. And I was like, whatever, they won't be that bad. Surely where you were recording the voiceover had a toilet. Yeah, I know, but there was still too much time. Like, I didn't want to go that early.
Yeah. So I needed to pee, and so I saw the public toilets. I was like, perfect. And as I'm walking, the need to pee, you know me, increases rapidly. And I'm like, oh, no, I don't need to pee. I'm now officially busting. Yeah. And as soon as I approached the door, two tourists... There's two doors. Two tourists immediately come in and occupy them.
These tourists I can only describe as outwardly American. Okay. Like later in life, we've got camo, shorts. Oh, okay. We've got walking poles for around the city. Oh, okay. We're off a cruise ship, I believe. Yes, it was a cruise ship. We're older. We're an older lady and gentleman. And, you know, we're lost. Yep. Just really enjoying your country, you know? Yep.
So I was like, damn it, so I've got to wait. They took forever. I was like, oh my God. And I'm like wriggling around going, oh, this is getting dire. And then the guy comes out and he sees me waiting there. It was the man that came out first. The woman was still going. The man came out and as he saw me, his eyes told me, Oh, no. Yeah, no. What had occurred in there.
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Chapter 7: How do societal views on attractiveness and competency change?
Never again. Have you thought about complaining to the council? No, next time I'm going to publicly pee in a bush and I'll take the penalty if cops walk by. You'll go to court for public exposure. No, I'm not going back in there. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughan and Hayley. I was reading a great article yesterday about beauty items that people are swearing by for 2026.
You know, everyone's starting their new regime. I'm really going to look after my skin this year, that kind of stuff. I saw an article yesterday linking to the face masks that Harry Styles uses and all the celebrities. Yeah. Mmm. You know the black ones, the under eyes? I've sort of given up on my under eyes. Last year they just took a beating and they've never come back.
I have four weeks of the most immaculate long sleeps. They're here to stay. Okay. Seems like a problem for turkey. You know what I mean? Exactly. Fix it in turkey. Fix it in turkey. Turkey 2030. Hashtag Turkey 2035. 2027. Okay. Okay, 2027. I can't keep waiting.
Anyway, I was reading through a number of these lists of like the top beauty items of 2026 and at the top of them I keep noticing it's always, it's always Cetaphil and CeraVe. Both of which, by the way, you can get at the Chemist Warehouse. Yes, you can. Show spawns. Yeah. So, and you look at all these lists that have these huge expensive brands and yet CeraVe and Cedaville always at the top.
People swear by them, clearing skin and doing all sorts of miracle things. And they're cheap as chips. Yeah. And so I was like, you don't need to spend money to have greatness in your life. And then I was like, let's hear from our listeners. What is the cheapest chips thing that you just, it's just your go-to, the thing that you love, the thing that you swear by, you have to have?
And we're just going to share it. What's good in this kind of cost of living, I was going to say, year that we've been having, five years, decade that we've been having. Yeah. You don't need, and you get lured in by the price meaning that it's better. This is like basically everything at the supermarket or wherever that's not a brand. It's all the same chemicals and stuff. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. You just pay more for the label. Yeah. Maybe it's like a dupe. Maybe it is a sworn by item of gym gear from Kmart. I was going to say the dupe leggings, like a lot of people swear by.
And they're like so cheap.
We're not getting $200 Lulu's anymore. What's the one? Halara. That's the one that you get 40 bucks and they're exactly the same. Yeah. Literally made the same fabric. The stamp's just slightly different. Nobody's at the gyms pulling back the waistband and seeing the label, are they? They are a little bit. With their eyes. With their eyes. With their eyes, they're like, oh, dupes. Dupes.
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of AI in medical advice?
Oh my god. You can get lost. I didn't know this was the stuff I used after my shoulder surgery and it rubs in clear. Right now, it's time for... Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. I do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
I reckon this today's fact of the day in this logo week may be somewhat of a shambles because usually when Vaughn's away, he'll leave us some, you know, he's put all this thought into it. But he's so struck with illness. Struck. that he's just in bed, close to death. So I thought what I would do is some logos that had to change after scandals.
Oh, okay.
And I might just do a few of them. Yeah, I like that. And then what it'll be, I'll say I'll stitch up Vaughan for tomorrow by blasting through a whole lot and then Vaughan will be sick tomorrow, thus shooting us in the foot again. Yes. But that feels like tomorrow Hayley's problem. Yeah. BP landed in hot water. They had an old shield, right? Back in the day, it was this old shield that said BP.
And then they rebranded to a sort of floral flower, giving an eco-friendly, energy-focused future. Is that what they have now? Yes. And they did that after that huge oil leak through the ocean. In the Gulf of Mexico. In the Gulf of Mexico. Or we say Gulf of America now. We do. If you want to be let into America in the future, on an Esther.
We've been talking about that we want to go to America to go to this thing later in the year, right? And we're like, do we need to start reining in our kind of anti-Trump stuff now and just be... So if you hear us on here, please know we don't actually believe this, but we want to go to this festival. So we stand with our leader.
Yeah.
But people called it PR gymnastics. They were like, you can't just put a flower, nature, and make it more green to undo the horrible things that you've done. Uber actually came under fire because they had a hard logo that was cold and aggressive. And after they were called out for a culture of toxic behavior, what they did was they rebranded to the softer, curvier writing here. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Basically, a lot of these have, in general, softened things after scandals. Malaysian Airlines, for example, had quite a hard, jaggedy original font. And then, of course, MH370 occurred. Still haven't found it. And that would be how many years? 2014? Yeah, since... 11 years? 12 years? Yeah, because it was, what, 10 years last? No, 12 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's insane. That was March 8th.
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