Introduction | If an art space can be carried elsewhere, what exactly is being carried? In this episode, Vietnamese artist collective ba-bau AIR joins us to share how the image of a pregnant woman inspires their vision of a space full of energy and possibility. They bring this vision to life in an old French-style house in Hanoi, where living, creating, and caring for the space together blur the lines between artist and audience, host and guest—and between the physical and the intangible. This season expands on the theme of MoCA TAIPEI’s 2026 exhibition Withdrawal: Our Collective Existence, exploring how contemporary artists approach collectivity as a form of knowledge production, a strategy for survival, and an aesthetic practice. The series features conversations with artist collectives, artist-run spaces, and self-organized initiatives from Taiwan and neighboring Asian countries. Through these conversations, we look at how artists activate spaces, cultivate diverse communities, and build creative practices and collective bonds—offering a glimpse into the fluid and evolving forms of collectivity in contemporary art across Taiwan and Asia. Outline | 04:47 ba-bau AIR — “Pregnant Woman” 07:58 Duyên: The Catalyst for the Space 10:13 Observations on Vietnam’s Current Art Scene 12:14 Collaborative Creation / Living in a French Colonial-Era House 15:27 The Spirit of the Former Landlord 18:08 The Meaning Behind the Teapot and Teacup 19:57 Fluid Boundaries Between Audience, Artist, and Host 26:20 Plans for the Next Three Years Host | Ileana Tu aka. Miss Bench A travel-addicted curator, grassroots art critic, and observer of daily spectacles. Focuses on art institutions that exist in a “state of exception” between museums and galleries. By day, a museum professional; by night, she transforms into “Miss Bench” to conduct writing and curatorial experiments, using exhibitions to open up spaces for social dialogue. Guest | Đinh Thảo Linh Đinh Thảo Linh, based between Hanoi and Hoa Binh, is an artist and curator exploring hydroelectric landscapes, indigenous knowledge, and human-infrastructure relations. Kiều-Anh Nguyễn Kiều-Anh is an interdisciplinary artist focusing on visual and olfactory & thinking about alternative archives to decentralize narratives. Website: kieu-anh-nguyen.com ba-bau AIR Founded in 2019, ba-bau AIR – an alternative space: a kitchen, a studio, an artist-in-residence and whatever it could be in Hanoi. ba-bau is a collective (2021) with curators, producers and artists. Their practices focus on designing safe spaces, curation & producing exhibitions, designing programs, emerging interdisciplinary collaborations & community-based work. References | 1.ba-bau AIR https://www.facebook.com/babauair -kitchen, library and residency spaces https://www.instagram.com/p/CUMKPBZvJ95/?img_index=1 https://www.instagram.com/p/CwpsU1By-Zn/?img_index=1 2.Queer Forever (Nguyen Quoc Thanh’s project) and a Queer Museum (by Dinh Nhung) | to occupy ba-bau space https://www.instagram.com/p/CNmVxh1rdjF/ 3.Nhà Sàn Collective https://nhasan.org Queer House ưhưh22 | documenta15 | 2022 https://documenta-fifteen.de/en/lumbung-members-artists/nha-san-collective/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CeRFnquFGC_/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CfJ-a0MFOUb/ 4.to set the sky in a betel’s bowl / mot cau dung troi trong coi dung trau | 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBBhdEL5R4k 5.B.E.E Farmstay https://www.facebook.com/babauair/posts/pfbid02VV5JddbPDzw5wZCPfov1s3m25QEv7XdRgMWw1n4ZZoKwQ6eboSaiYdavv9JtBUQJl Music | Intro music: “Vibing Over Venus” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ – FB：https://www.facebook.com/TaipeiMoCA Email：[email protected] – Sponsor: Ji Hui-Neng Art and Culture Foundation 88. S12EP06｜從一杯茶開始，ba-bau AIR 翻轉主客邊界的空間共享實驗（ft. Đinh Thảo Linh、Kiều Anh Nguyễn）【節目簡介】如果藝術空間可以被「帶著走」，被帶走的究竟是什麼？本集邀請越南藝術團體 ba-bau Air，分享懷孕女人的意象，如何作為他們對富有能量、充滿未知可能的空間想像，實踐在一棟法式老宅中，共同起居、創作，創造出藝術家與觀眾、實體與非實體難辨的流動性空間。本季 Podcast 延伸自台北當代藝術館年度主展「凹陷：我們的團體生活」，探討當代藝術創作者如何透過「集體性」開展知識生產、生存策略與美學實踐。我們將討論拓展至臺灣與亞洲周邊國家的藝術團體、自營空間與自組行動，訪問如何透過空間的運用與轉譯、多元社群的經營與連結，開展創作行動與團體情感，以此記錄臺灣及亞洲當代藝術中多元且流動的集體能量。【大綱標記】 04:47 ba-bau AIR—懷孕的女人 07:58 Duyên—空間開始的契機 10:13 越南當下藝術環境觀察 12:14 共同創作／起居的法式老建築 15:27 舊房東的靈魂 18:08 茶壺與茶杯的寓意 19:57 主／客，藝術家／觀眾難辨的流動性空間 26:20 未來三年的計畫【主持人】杜依玲 aka 長椅小姐一名對旅行上癮的策展人、平民藝評人、日常中的奇觀鑒察者。關注介於美術館與畫廊之間處於「例外狀態」的藝術機構。白天是美術館的上班族，夜晚化身爲「長椅小姐」進行書寫及策展實驗，透過展覽打開社會對話的空間。【講者】 Đinh Thảo Linh 現居越南河內與和平省，身兼藝術家與策展人，長期關注水力發電地景、原住民族知識，以及人類與基礎設施之間的互動關係。 Kiều-Anh Nguyễn 跨領域藝術家，創作涵蓋視覺與嗅覺媒介，並持續思考如何透過另類檔案的建構，鬆動既有敘事的中心性。個人網站：kieu-anh-nguyen.com ba-bau AIR 成立於 2019 年，位於越南河內，是一處結合廚房、工作室、駐村與多元實驗功能的另類藝術空間。自 2021 年起，以策展人、製作人及藝術家共同組成的集體形式運作，致力於打造安全的對話場域，並透過策展、展覽製作、公共計畫、跨領域合作及社群實踐，促進新興創作者的交流與實踐。【參考資料】 1.ba-bau AIR https://www.facebook.com/babauair -廚房、圖書館、駐村空間 https://www.instagram.com/p/CUMKPBZvJ95/?img_index=1 https://www.instagram.com/p/CwpsU1By-Zn/?img_index=1 2.Queer Forever (Nguyen Quoc Thanh’s project) and a Queer Museum (by Dinh Nhung) | to occupy ba-bau space https://www.instagram.com/p/CNmVxh1rdjF/ 3.Nhà Sàn Collective https://nhasan.org Queer House ưhưh22 | documenta15 | 2022 https://documenta-fifteen.de/en/lumbung-members-artists/nha-san-collective/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CeRFnquFGC_/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CfJ-a0MFOUb/ 4.to set the sky in a betel’s bowl / mot cau dung troi trong coi dung trau | 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBBhdEL5R4k 5.B.E.E Farmstay https://www.facebook.com/babauair/posts/pfbid02VV5JddbPDzw5wZCPfov1s3m25QEv7XdRgMWw1n4ZZoKwQ6eboSaiYdavv9JtBUQJl 【襯樂】片頭／片尾： “Vibing Over Venus” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ - FB：https://www.facebook.com/TaipeiMoCA 聽眾信箱：[email protected] - 贊助單位：財團法人紀慧能藝術文化基金會

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