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本期闲聊播客在歌颂完了鸡和普洱茶之后，继续歌颂蔬菜。食材的自然风味为何会在工业化中消失殆尽？工业化如何屠杀了食材的灵魂？自然完美的标准和工业完美的标准有什么不同？牛奶中的自然甜、辣椒中的自然辣、葡萄苹果咸菜中的自然酸和工业甜、辣、酸有什么区别？为什么自然标准拥有自然的限制，而工业标准追求的是没有限制的极致？这两种标准会给现代人的生活带来怎样的改变？前奏：拉莫，埃及人弹奏者：日安吃吃喝喝合集：134-品鉴普洱如何帮我反思理性的局限？132-做鸡如何帮我反思现代性？127-保守主义之父柏克会如何评价预制菜
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