4DCA Division 1 Oral Argument - 2025/12/08 - Dec 08, 2025

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4DCA Division 1 Oral Argument - 2025/12/08

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What procedural steps are taken at the beginning of the hearing (roll call, microphone rules, and case scheduling)?

Rex Heineke 8:31
Do you need to check in with you?
Unknown 8:33
No.
Rex Heineke 8:35
Does the court want the first case already up here? People up at
Unknown 8:41
the... Yeah, you can do that. Or they're going to do like a spiel. Okay.
Unknown 11:16
Okay, only arguing attorneys are allowed up here at council tables. this podium moves up and down or not it does okay so there's a small black button and i believe the microphone moves speak directly to the microphone so the justices can hear you just be mindful that everything is being recorded does anybody have any questions we should be getting started just a couple
Unknown 12:23
Good morning. This is Lily from the clerk's office. I'll be taking a roll call of those of you appearing remotely. If you can please unmute your microphone and turn on your video. And when you hear your name, please state your presence. Dorian Jackson.
Dorian Jackson 12:38
Good morning, Madam Clerk. Present.
Unknown 12:41
Thank you. Josette Johnson. Good morning. Good morning. Can you? Yes. Thank you. And Aparna Vashirota. Dr. Rota?
Unknown 13:06
The court asks you to keep your microphone muted and camera off until the court calls your case. As a reminder, the proceedings are live streamed on the court's website. If you experience any technical issues during the session, immediately call in using the phone number and access code that's on your Zoom invitation. Thank you. We'll be with you shortly.
Unknown 17:20
Thank you very much.
Unknown 18:27
Well, good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Council, welcome to the Court of Appeal. Happy holidays. We have five matters on calendar this morning. It is our intention, absent some calendaring mishap, to take them in order. And our first matter will be Wickline v. Schwerter. Council, please remember that we are very familiar with your cases. We've read your briefs. We have a bench memorandum. So please... Focus us on the matters that you want us to pay particular attention to. And with that, we will take weak line. Mr. Heineke, Mr. Roller.
Rex Heineke 19:49
Good morning. Rex Heineke on behalf of Appellant David Wickline.
Unknown 19:53
Good morning, Mr. Heineke. Would you like to reserve some time for reply?
Rex Heineke 19:57
Yes, Your Honor. Five minutes, if I
Unknown 19:58
could.
Rex Heineke 19:59
All right.
Unknown 20:00
You may proceed.
Rex Heineke 20:00
I think the time estimate was 15 minutes?
Unknown 20:02
Yes,
Rex Heineke 20:03
it is. Thank you. This Court's first opinion held that the trial court erred in holding that the partnership terminated on June 16, 2016. The court held that RUPA, the Revised Uniform Partnership Act, applied here and it hadn't been complied with. RUPA has two steps if you want to terminate a partnership. One, has to be dissolution. Two, there has to be a windup. Neither of those things ever happened here. The court said, well, maybe there was some other basis that the trial court had. The trial court didn't comply with RUPA the first time around and it said, well, Wickline sought damages, so that dissolved the partnership. This court said, no, that's not true either. So it goes back. The trial court then, quote, clarifies purportedly what happened.
Rex Heineke 21:01
But the clarification is no clarification at all. It simply reinstates the prior judgment and says the partnership is still terminated. But it doesn't say there's a dissolution. And there was no windup. So there could be no termination of the partnership. The clarification says, well, Wickline breached his fiduciary duty. Well, this is based on that same email that Wickline sent to himself on June 16, 2016. That this court previously held didn't amount to a dissolution. In addition, if you're going to claim somebody breached a fiduciary duty under RUPA, then you have to go to the court and say, that partner breached his or her fiduciary duty, and I want a judicial determination of that. And if I get that, then I want a dissolution.
Rex Heineke 21:51
That never happened here. There was no attempt to have that happen. So that cannot have been the basis for terminating the partnership or a dissolution. Now, it's possible, I suppose, that clarification means that that Mr. Wickline withdrew from the partnership. But to do that, under RUPA, you have to give notice to other partners. The only thing that's supposed to show he withdrew is an email to himself. That can't possibly be dissolution by giving notice to your partners you want to dissolve.

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