4DCA Division 1 Oral Argument - 2026/01/12 - Jan 12, 2026
argument4DCA Division 1 Oral Argument - 2026/01/12
California Fourth District Court of Appeal, Division One
3h 37m
6 chapters
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How does the Court open the session and set procedural rules?
Yeah,
appellate or respondent.
Okay. Would you like to comment, sorry?
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I'll just go real quickly, too, because it looks like we might have some other than counsel here. Once court begins, there's no talking at any time. You can step out at any time. There's no sleeping. If you feel sleepy, feel free to step out. And if you need to chew gum or candy or have a snack, please step out as well.
The Court of Appeal of the State of California for the Pellet District, Division One, is now in session. With the Honorable Judith McConnell presiding. Please be seated.
Good morning. Welcome to the Court of Appeal. With me on this first panel are Justice O'Rourke to my right, Justice Kelady to my left, We do have a panel change, but on all of the cases, keep in mind we're very familiar with your briefs. So just highlight those issues you think are most important. We'll start with People v. Ortega. For appellant, please state your appearance and let us know if you wish to reserve time.
MR. Good morning, Your Honors. George Schreyer for the appellant. May I reserve three minutes for rebuttal?
MS. All right. Thank
you. Appellant was convicted of murdering Bob Lizotte, a friend of his for 25 years. The defense wanted to put on a defense based on a specific person being the actual killer, but the trial attorney ruled that there was insufficient evidence connecting that person to the crime and disallowed that type of evidence to be presented. What this required was that the defense raise a defense that's based on the police failing to test every piece of physical evidence and hope that that would raise a reasonable doubt that the defendant was the person who killed the victim. There was a different defense, though, that was available. And although it was not a complete defense, it was a defense that would have reduced the crime from first-degree to second-degree murder.
And it was based on the defendant's intoxication. And there was extensive evidence supporting that defense. I want to talk a bit about what that evidence
is. They were both users of methamphetamine, both the decedent and your client.
Yes, that's correct. So
you're saying he was under the influence of methamphetamine.
but it's more than just under the influence. Maybe I should get there first. Okay.
But they
weren't drinking. Yes. That would have been a different case. The most important evidence was actually from a prosecution witness, Kristen Stewart, who was the prosecution toxicologist. She testified to the amount of methamphetamine in the defendant's system from a blood draw that was taken on the morning of the incident after the police arrested him. But she gave much more extensive testimony than that. She testified as to something which she called the binge phase of methamphetamine use. What she meant by that was it's the effect that methamphetamine has on the brain. And she said that during the binge phase, a person feels paranoia, experiences hallucination, and experiences delusions. And she said that the amount tested in the appellant's blood was sufficient to cause him to be in the binge phase.
So I think that's the most important evidence. But there's other evidence as well. The defendant was with a bunch of people in, say, 12 or 15 hours before the homicide occurred. And several of those people testified it was not just using methamphetamine, but that he was saying bizarre and strange things about what he was experiencing.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
How does the Court open the session and set procedural rules?
12:12–34:23
2
What are the facts and legal issues in People v. Ortega (murder, intoxication, and defense strategy)?
34:23–47:08
3
How do the attorneys argue the intoxication defense and its evidentiary challenges?
47:08–1:57:24
4
What is the dispute over the definition of “conviction” in the Bishop case?
1:57:24–2:42:08
5
How does the court address the RJA violation and prior‑conviction issues in People v. Gomez?
2:42:08–3:09:21
6
What are the key arguments and evidentiary disputes in People v. Sani?
3:09:21–3:31:59
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