4DCA Division 1 Oral Argument - 2026/07/13 - Jul 13, 2026

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4DCA Division 1 Oral Argument - 2026/07/13

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What procedural steps are taken at the beginning of the hearing?

Tim Lucas 16:59
Okay. Do you know which case is first this morning?
Unknown 17:03
No.
Tim Lucas 17:04
Alright.
Unknown 17:07
It's on the same panel.
Ralph Morales III 17:08
Yeah. They were asking.
Lily 19:17
Good morning, this is Lily from the clerk's office. I'll be taking roll call of those of you appearing remotely. If you can please unmute your microphone and turn on your video and when you hear your name, please state your presence. Jeffrey Sow.
Geoffrey Sell 19:33
Morning, Madam Clerk. This is Geoffrey Sell.
Lily 19:35
Thank you. The court asks that you keep your microphone muted and camera off until we call your case. As a reminder, the proceedings are live streamed on the court's website. If you experience any technical issues, you can immediately call in using the phone number and access code that's on your invite. Thank you, we'll be with you shortly.
Unknown 23:49
Morning, welcome to the Court of Appeal. Just a few things before we get started. Uh when you come to argue, make sure you rest the podium using the switch on the right here so the microphone is pointing at your chin. If you don't, the justices won't be able to hear you on the bench and they'll make you adjust it properly before you continue arguing. Uh the appellate side is here to my right. Uh during court please keep talking noise up down to a minimum. Uh the panel hasn't told me which case is first. So They'll tell you when they come out. So tell us on your way. That's correct, yes. Thank you. Uh any questions for me? Thank you. Appreciate it.
Unknown 29:28
All right. The Court of Appeal, the State of California, Fourth Appellate District Division I is now in session with the Honorable Steve McConnell presiding. Please be serious. Good morning. Welcome to the Court of Appeal. Uh with me on this panel are Justice O'Rourke to my right, Justice Doe to my left. Um we take matters in order of their t your time estimates. So We'll start with R M versus P no, that's not shorter. We'll start with Bates versus City of Temecula. Looks like everybody has the same time estimate except possibly Ellis.
Unknown 30:30
And when you're ready, please state your appearance and let us know if you wish to reserve time to respond.
Carly Roberts 30:43
Good morning and may it please the court. My name is Carly Roberts, uh counsel for Appellant City of Temecula. I wish to reserve five minutes for rebuttal. All right, you may proceed. There is one critical question before the court today whether the omission of KC eleven oh three during the reading of jury instructions. Was prejudicial to respondent John Gordon Bates? We submit the answer is no. There are two primary points I want to address today. First being why on this record. The inadvertent omission of KC eleven oh three amounted to harmless error. And second, that the standard of review here should be independent, not differential, because the order lacks an adequate statement of reason and leaves us with ambiguities.
Carly Roberts 31:30
While the standard of review is the second point I intend to address today, I want to be clear that under either standard of review, independent or abusive discretion, a reversal of the trial court's new trial order is required here. The city's briefing refers to four factors articulated in Mays versus Bryan that should be considered when determining whether actual prejudice resulted from an instructional error. For consistency's sake, I'll be referring to these factors as the maze factors, but I do want to recognize that this test. Uh or these factors may be more properly named the Seoul factors, as this test was first adopted by the state Supreme Court in uh Seoul versus General Mort Motors back in 1994.
Carly Roberts 32:19
In Seoul, the court grappled with the issue of instructional error and concluded, among other things, that there is no rule of automatic reversal or inherent prejudice. applicable to any category of civil instructional error, whether of commission or omission. Rather, a judgment may not be reversed for instructional error in a civil case unless the error complained of has resulted in a miscarriage of justice. When you apply the four May's factors here, which are the state of the evidence, the effect of other instructions, the effect of counsel's arguments, and Indian indication by the jury that it was confused, and apply these factors to this record.

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