Aaron Epstein
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first heard Aug 2026
last heard 7 Aug
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Yes, yeah.
And so what's important is using the right models and those models getting better at design, which will inevitably happen over time.
And then the next thing that you need is just more control over it quickly.
And so to have that control, to be able to edit it and make it more in your own vision is actually the really powerful missing piece here that I think is a lot of what paper is providing right here.
Yeah, it's interesting.
I was having a very similar conversation with someone who leads design at a multi-billion dollar design forward company about there's a thought process that goes through a human's head where they're reacting to something and a criteria they're evaluating.
And it's very implicit for us as humans right now.
And the question is, can you verbalize what those things are?
Like, what is the process of you deciding whether something is good or not or looks good or not or hits the bar or not?
Can you literally go through and quantify all of that and teach that to a model to the point where it has taste like a human would?
And then the question becomes, well, if all the models were able to do that, does everything just look the same again?
Yeah.
And then you always need the humans to be driving to finding the next thing that's actually going to be new and stands out and pushes the limits more.
My sense from talking to a lot of designers is that you guys are almost building kind of a groundswell movement, like a cult movement of people that are now using paper as the new cool thing that a lot of designers are using.
And it's the new modern way to work.
Was that intentional?
And what are the things that you're doing to try to...
get more users, to grow, to get some mind share.
Like you seem to be one of the only companies, Figma obviously has built this huge behemoth and gone public and, you know, all the Fortune 500 uses them and all this stuff.
But it feels like you've started to crack some of that, certainly within certain user types.
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