Aaron Siri
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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It's okay to use non-placebo if you have an existing standard of care that has already been established as safe in a double-blind placebo-controlled trial, right? Okay? And so that process began by looking at the package inserts, and the 58 documents. Well, let's look at what the clinical trial data says for each of these products.
Not only because I can want to look at that investigation, but also when our clients call our firm and they say, hey, my kid went in totally healthy, you know, his baby Apgar score perfect, goes in 10 minutes after getting a shot or these shots, has a grand mal seizure, bubble, you know, has a cascade of issues. When we go to vaccine court,
the program I told you about, because you can't sue the manufacturer. You sue the Secretary of Health and Human Services. And if Mr. Kennedy becomes, for example, the Secretary of HHS, we'd actually be suing him, ironically. You sue the Secretary of HHS, and in a program where almost every claim, you have to prove causation. You have to prove it. Okay? I don't have an MD. I don't have a PhD.
I'm a lawyer. So when I go to court about vaccines, I have to prove things with real evidence. I need good evidence. I don't get to just say stuff. I don't get to appeal to my credentials. Okay, how do I prove it? Starts with clinical trial data because everything after licensure is almost all retrospective epidemiological studies. And those they say can never show causation.
You roll into court with those are like, well, that's just correlation. You can't prove anything with that. And by the way, it's not even like there's a mountain of that stuff. If you go to PubMed and you want to research the safety of any particular trial of the vaccine, you're not going to find a lot of studies.
I know they say these most robustly studied products, but there's what they say and there's a reality to the state of the science. So bringing this all the way back- And the reality is that they're just not studied very closely. And this polio vaccine is a great example. And as well as the other two petitions they took issue with in the news recently. So in this one petition, here we are, right?
Two or 20 something years later, we've got this explosion of chronic health in our children. And the manufacturer of this product, this was a novel product at the time, the manufacturer's product, 20-something years later, still needs immunity liability? You still don't know it's safe enough to lift that? Really? It's been how many years? Right? So merit's really looking into.
Look at the clinical trial. Like I said, on behalf of ICANN, we FOIA the FDA for all the clinical trial reports. We sent them letters. We did everything we can to give them an opportunity to show us it's more than three days with no control because that is... Not believable. Meaning if you had said to me, you said, Aaron, come up with the most nefarious thing you can come up with about vaccines.
Like, just go crazy. I wouldn't even dream of saying that to you because nobody would believe it. It sounds crazy, but it's right there. It is the reality. And so we filed a petition that I think if anybody in America read, if you didn't read the headline of the New York Times, but instead read, The actual petition, you'd be like, oh, that's very reasonable.
So you license a completely novel, yes, polio vaccine based on essentially cancerous monkey kidney cells that end up as an ingredient. And you're resated for three days after injection with no control. So the petition said, hey, FDA, excuse me, can you require a proper clinical trial of this product, please?
before it's licensed and it was only as the children that's what the request was in this petition filed on behalf of i can okay so let me address two things wait so that was the ask just for a clinical trial before it's licensed for children yes and so what we're asking now just to just to understand it's not even like i can wanted to withdraw the licensure of this one product it's not the point
The clinical trials are done by the manufacturer. They're not done by the FDA, okay? They're done by the manufacturer. So how do we get the manufacturer to do another clinical trial that's appropriate?
Well, you have to, when you file a request with the FDA on their formal docket, like when Pfizer files a request on this formal docket that we use, FDA hates that we use it because it's only pharma companies typically use it. They're like, we'd like to license this product. We would like to change the licensure. We would like to change that company's licensure because of this, right?
So we use the same document on behalf of ICANN and we filed on it and we said, hey, we want you to take this action, but we have to ask them to change some action the FDA took. Well, the only action they took was to license it. So the valve to ask them to get them to require a new trial is to say, pause or pull the licensure for this one product until there's a proper trial, okay?
It was the legal mechanism to get another trial. The purpose wasn't to get rid of the vaccine. The purpose was to get them to do a proper trial. And in no universe, to be clear, did we ever think... my client ever think, and I ever think, that the FDA would actually pull the licensure. We just hoped, thought, they'd say, hey, go do a proper clinical trial. They're onto us.
It's now been, that petition was filed in 2022. It's been years. They haven't done it. And I like to make this point very clear, just super clear. I really got to set this record straight. It's so important. Even if this petition was granted, There is not a single child or adult in America that would not have had access to a polio vaccine. Not one.
That is what makes the New York Times headlines absolutely false. They knew it was false. They intended for the country to be deceived because they're trying desperately to derail Mr. Kennedy's nomination. And I'll just- But hold on.
Why is it so important?
i think it's probably a mix like many things in life of a number of factors um i think that it matters whether you're looking at the level of the two reporters that wrote this piece at the level of the new york times as an organization at the various people between those two reporters and new york times an organization that had some hand in that piece before it came out i think it's probably a blend of ranging from ideology you know the i will tell you these two authors of this article
I mean, they are in the category of what I would call vaccine zealots. I mean, they, I think, are incapable of objectively thinking and looking at this product. Do you remember their names? Their names are Cheryl and Christina, and I could pull it up if you'd like.
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