Abbie Chatfield

On the flip side, the benefits of our jobs is we kind of go, I don't know, life's pretty good.

We go, I don't know.

I talk about a reality TV show for a living and you get to go and yell on stage shirtless dripping in sweat and everything's going pretty well with our careers.

So it's like I think –

You know, the thing about moving away that makes me sad about us maybe not – we're definitely not going to have kids until I'm at least like 35.

So we've got at least five years.

It's like it would make more sense for us to move out somewhere if we were having kids.

Yeah.

We're like currently planning on not having kids.

So –

I'm moving out to be completely alone in a house so that I can walk around the woods by myself with Walter.

Like there's no big upside to leaving and there's no huge downside to staying but it's like all these incremental things.

Death by a thousand cuts.

Yes.

It's death by a thousand cuts and then I go, well,

Is the annoyance and the isolation of being out there, is that still better than walking out of my house and there's a strange man with a camera at the front of my house sometimes, randomly it seems, for no reason.

Slow news day, they just come to my place and see if I can go for a walk with Walter and pick up his shit.

Like I still – it's happened less and less, to be fair.

But –

I don't know.