Abby Wambach

It's like you have written three memoirs, not because you believe you're exceptional, but precisely because you believe that you are not exceptional.

That like this is a state of the human condition.

And if you believed you were exceptional, all the better for you.

I'm just saying that your belief that the more specific and intimate the story is, the more universal it is of the human experience.

happens to be why that you're producing this work.

That if you were like, look at me, I'm a rare little unicorn and I want to tell you about myself, then the motivation to be curious about that would be less robust.

Yes.

I also think there's something...

Oh, sorry.

Go ahead.

Yes.

It's like it takes a lot more arrogance –

to tell someone they don't have a right to be a main character than just someone who's a main character.

Yeah, it's audacious.

It's audacious.

It's also super interesting what you just mentioned about Virginia Woolf and like the interior story, like the structural value applied to that versus other things.

And it's just so mirrored in every structural hurdle that we've had.

You know, where you have like, okay, the domestic sphere belongs to women and the public sphere belongs to men.

And that is the natural order of things.

And therefore, because we have made those assignments, the domestic sphere will be unpaid, unvalued and be seen as just inherently women inherently desire that.