Adam Grant

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345 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 26 Aug

Adam Grant’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 4 in all, peaking in Aug 2026 with 3.

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My goal was to try to figure out what motivated Dwight Schrute and then connect what I cared about to Dwight's motives.

How well did I do?

Well, are you going to give us your mic?

No, we don't have to play it out.

My read of Michael was that he's actually not a bad guy, but he really wants to be famous.

And his antics are in front of the camera.

And so I would try to get him off camera would be my first thought.

My second thought would be to help him see that becoming a famous hated boss is probably not the ideal place to land.

Yeah, I'd want to hold up a mirror and have him see how disliked he is, and then the hope is, he wants to be loved.

Although I remember him also saying he wants people to fear him and love him, and he wants them to be afraid of how much they love him.

So I want to talk about a bunch of other things, but before we temporarily leave the office,

I had two questions about your experience on this show.

One is you achieved success a lot later in life than many people in your industry do.

How old were you when you were cast as Dwight?

It's such an interesting contrast to a dynamic that I think a lot of people watch, which is the opposite.

If somebody gets too much success too soon, it goes to their head.

They end up with a giant, fragile ego.

They lack humility.

They end up becoming more takers than givers.

There's a whole syndrome that I'm sure you've watched a lot of people fall victim to.

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