Adam Grant

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2,364 appearances 12 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 11 Aug

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ReThinking · What Finnish president Alexander Stubb learned from golfing with Trump · 30 Jun 2026 podcast

So let's talk about your big rethinking decision.

You ended up becoming prime minister, I think, in ways that were probably surprising to a lot of people.

We don't see a lot of political scientists run for office, let alone win.

And then I have a vivid memory of you saying, after you finish that role, I will never be in politics again.

I am done with that.

So why did you go in the

And you haven't rethought it yet.

How does your training as a political scientist affect the way that you lead?

I'd just love to give our listeners a vivid view of, you know, when you're testing ideas and trying to figure out what will work and what won't, is there an anecdote or an illustration you could give us to bring that to life?

How are you leading differently this time with the benefit of the two years that you did originally as PM?

You mentioned the extensive border that you share with Russia.

You've spent time up close with Vladimir Putin, and you've obviously spent a lot of time trying to understand his psychology.

I'd love to hear you just make sense of how do you influence, persuade, negotiate with somebody who is very difficult, first of all, to move, and secondly, to reason with?

Well, I think this relates to one of my big takeaways from the triangle of power, which is you make a case that listening is an underrated leadership skill.

This makes me wonder a little bit about the Nordic tendency toward, I've heard it described as Janteloven.

Oh, well.

Okay, so I'm going to try to teach you something about your world.

Are you ready for this?

Very good.

See, there you go.

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