Adam Grant

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ReThinking · What Finnish president Alexander Stubb learned from golfing with Trump · 30 Jun 2026 podcast

And I really, I could not believe that

The norm is for every school to have a team of psychologists and social workers who are actually checking in on the well-being of each student, not just their grades.

You were obviously shaped in formative ways by the Finnish education system.

What mattered most from your perspective and what could the rest of the world learn from what Finland is doing well?

You said something earlier that really surprised me.

You said you lost because you were challenged by your good friend.

Who is friends with the person who causes them to lose their job?

That's fair.

Well, you know, I think you're also demonstrating something right now that has been a real asset for you, but could easily be a liability, which is just the level of candor and straightforwardness that you speak with.

I think you're probably unusually blunt, both for a fan and for a politician.

And yeah, we can imagine all sorts of ways in which being unfiltered could be a problem.

But I think you've used it to your advantage.

I'd love to hear a story about how and a little bit of explanation of what's behind this.

One of the things I've been thinking a lot about when it comes to the rise of a particular style of a political leader is we have seen an authoritarian turn in the past decade or so around the world.

And

One of the patterns I've seen in the evidence that at first surprised me and then was ultimately illuminating was in times of turbulence and in times of especially stress, people are often drawn to the confidence of a strong man or a strong woman leader.

And they take the assurances that I'm in charge as a signal that this person is also going to do right by their country or look out for their people's best interests.

And I look at that and I think,

Well, there's a big gap between what authoritarian leaders stand for and what a servant leader would do.

I worry a lot that we end up with takers instead of givers if we elevate that style.

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