Adam Grant

And I think you're spot on that developing informed opinions takes time.

Good thinking is hard and sometimes slow.

And you're also right that doing good experiments...

requires both space and a broader view of what you're trying to accomplish and what different options might be, as opposed to saying, well, there's one way to go.

Let me just implement that.

I think the reason I'm hesitating a little bit is that there's a version of thinking like a scientist that can be done very quickly.

So it's, I mean, it's basically what Eric Ries was talking about in Lean Startup, where you create a minimum viable product.

It's a, you know, it's kind of a rough prototype and

And then you put it out quickly, you gather feedback from the market and you iterate.

And I think that that's a version of scientific thinking too, where you can just say, hey, I've got this idea.

How would we test it quickly?

And then let's see what we learn and let's adjust.

And I wonder if you can get to the same, I might be wrong.

I'm not gonna let my ideas become part of my identity by just doing sort of quick, short testing of ideas.

that you want to by saying, let's pause, let's step back, let's do deep reflection.

Yes.

Oh, okay.

So you mentioned small wins earlier.

Yeah.

In the context of Liverpool.