Adam Harris

Did you think he was going to go through with the threats?

Yeah, and Nancy...

What were your sources telling you about Trump's threats in the lead up to that deadline?

Yeah.

And actually, speaking of those outcomes that the president said he was seeking, right, you go back to January and you think about what the president was saying about the Iranian people, right?

This was to help them overthrow the regime.

And now we have something like 1,700 Iranian civilians who have been

killed in the strikes, including at least 250 children.

What of the Iranian people in all of this?

What was the administration thinking about those people when you were having these threats from the president?

on those goals and thinking about, you know, this was, this was a war that the people didn't want, but now we are, we've reached a point where we have reached a ceasefire, but I'm still kind of stuck in this idea that I don't know that we've ever gotten a clear definition of why the administration is

They've said all of these various reasons why they're there, and now they're saying that, well, the Strait of Hormuz is reopening, and that's the sort of victory.

But that was just a byproduct of war.

So, Tom, Nancy, either of you can answer this one.

Have they clearly defined our reason for being there?

What does the military do when they don't have that strategic direction and when they're pulling all of these different threads, right?

Like if this is a regime change, like you're going to do a specific thing for regime change as opposed to I'm doing a specific thing for liberation of people as opposed to I'm doing specific things to open up a strait that wouldn't have been closed otherwise.

So how do they plan when there is no strategic direction?

Yeah, absolutely.

Nancy, we know that no one really wins in war in terms of human suffering.