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Adam Kinzinger

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1038 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

I mean, I think you're probably right to worry about the technology. I think the thing that sticks out to me is the vaccine stuff. So it's not just that knowledge is destroyed or the ability to accumulate and synthesize it is harmed, but it's replaced with junk, right? So you have this issue with, you know, this outbreak of, you know, measles in the Southwest and we're talking about cod liver.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

I mean, I think you're probably right to worry about the technology. I think the thing that sticks out to me is the vaccine stuff. So it's not just that knowledge is destroyed or the ability to accumulate and synthesize it is harmed, but it's replaced with junk, right? So you have this issue with, you know, this outbreak of, you know, measles in the Southwest and we're talking about cod liver.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

I mean, I think you're probably right to worry about the technology. I think the thing that sticks out to me is the vaccine stuff. So it's not just that knowledge is destroyed or the ability to accumulate and synthesize it is harmed, but it's replaced with junk, right? So you have this issue with, you know, this outbreak of, you know, measles in the Southwest and we're talking about cod liver.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

I mean, that stuff is really bad. My fear is partially not just that they're going to mess with technology or our ability to advance technology, but that people will stop accepting scientific conclusions because their brains are so cooked by the stuff that they're seeing on social media.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

I mean, that stuff is really bad. My fear is partially not just that they're going to mess with technology or our ability to advance technology, but that people will stop accepting scientific conclusions because their brains are so cooked by the stuff that they're seeing on social media.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

I mean, that stuff is really bad. My fear is partially not just that they're going to mess with technology or our ability to advance technology, but that people will stop accepting scientific conclusions because their brains are so cooked by the stuff that they're seeing on social media.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

As far as Black history is concerned, I mean, on the one hand, the internet means you can do a book burning that is much bigger than an actual literal book burning. On the other hand, it is hard to delete anything from the internet now that it exists. It's not a Library of Alexandria situation where there's only one book, yeah.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

As far as Black history is concerned, I mean, on the one hand, the internet means you can do a book burning that is much bigger than an actual literal book burning. On the other hand, it is hard to delete anything from the internet now that it exists. It's not a Library of Alexandria situation where there's only one book, yeah.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

As far as Black history is concerned, I mean, on the one hand, the internet means you can do a book burning that is much bigger than an actual literal book burning. On the other hand, it is hard to delete anything from the internet now that it exists. It's not a Library of Alexandria situation where there's only one book, yeah.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

We're not talking about like, you know, there are plays that Aeschylus wrote that we're never gonna get to read. You know, me personally, I grew up in Washington, DC. I went to a public school. I went to the Duke Ellington School of the Arts.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

We're not talking about like, you know, there are plays that Aeschylus wrote that we're never gonna get to read. You know, me personally, I grew up in Washington, DC. I went to a public school. I went to the Duke Ellington School of the Arts.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

We're not talking about like, you know, there are plays that Aeschylus wrote that we're never gonna get to read. You know, me personally, I grew up in Washington, DC. I went to a public school. I went to the Duke Ellington School of the Arts.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And there were classes that I took there, classes on the Harlem Renaissance, classes on black history that were there because DCPS serves a mostly black student body. And when I got to college, I knew things that other kids had not been taught because of that.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And there were classes that I took there, classes on the Harlem Renaissance, classes on black history that were there because DCPS serves a mostly black student body. And when I got to college, I knew things that other kids had not been taught because of that.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And there were classes that I took there, classes on the Harlem Renaissance, classes on black history that were there because DCPS serves a mostly black student body. And when I got to college, I knew things that other kids had not been taught because of that.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And so to some extent, my fear with this stuff, it's not so much that none of this stuff will ever get taught, but we're going to turn the clock back to a period where people simply did not know the nuances of the history that I was fortunate enough to learn because they simply won't be taught it. It will simply be censored. It will simply be taken out of academic inquiry.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And so to some extent, my fear with this stuff, it's not so much that none of this stuff will ever get taught, but we're going to turn the clock back to a period where people simply did not know the nuances of the history that I was fortunate enough to learn because they simply won't be taught it. It will simply be censored. It will simply be taken out of academic inquiry.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And so to some extent, my fear with this stuff, it's not so much that none of this stuff will ever get taught, but we're going to turn the clock back to a period where people simply did not know the nuances of the history that I was fortunate enough to learn because they simply won't be taught it. It will simply be censored. It will simply be taken out of academic inquiry.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And I take the point that most kids are not arguing about whether or not the Civil War was caused by slavery. The truth is we have bigger problems as far as making sure everybody learns math and reading properly. But I do fear that popular understandings of history really do affect ideological conclusions about the world. And they understand that.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And I take the point that most kids are not arguing about whether or not the Civil War was caused by slavery. The truth is we have bigger problems as far as making sure everybody learns math and reading properly. But I do fear that popular understandings of history really do affect ideological conclusions about the world. And they understand that.