Adam Kinzinger: The People of Minneapolis Won

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Why did the people of Minneapolis resist ICE's operation?

Tim Miller 0:13
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back one of our faves. He's a former member of Congress from Illinois. He served in the Air Force and Air National Guard. He's the founder of Country First. They got a new campaign to push back on the politicization of the National Guard. He's also on Substack with the rest of us. He's in the gym a lot. He's doing peptides. It's Adam Kinzinger. Hey, buddy.
Adam Kinzinger 0:33
What's going on?
Tim Miller 0:35
Good to be back with you, man. It's been a minute. We just put this on the calendar. We didn't know it was going to be happening. This is insane. We could do nine hours of podcasting today with all the shit that's out there.
Adam Kinzinger 0:46
Just pick a day, though. It's insane every freaking day.
Tim Miller 0:49
Much to cover. We've got to start with Pam Bondi, unfortunately. It's unpleasant having to listen to her talk, just to be candid. But I'm going to punish people. We're going to listen to a little bit from yesterday's performance on the Hill.
Unknown 1:04
So I really have just one question for you. How many of Epstein's co-conspirators have you indicted? How many perpetrators are you even investigating?
Pam Bondi 1:20
First, you showed it. I find it. How many have you indicted? Excuse me. I'm going to answer the question.
Unknown 1:27
Answer my question.
Pam Bondi 1:28
No, I'm going to answer the question the way I want to answer the question.
Unknown 1:31
No, you're going to answer the question the way I asked it.
Pam Bondi 1:33
You don't tell me anything. Yeah, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate. You're not even a lawyer. Have you apologized to President Trump? Have you apologized to President Trump? All of you who participated in those impeachment hearings against Donald Trump, you all should be apologizing. You sit here and you attack the president and I am not going to have it. I'm not going to put up with it. And none of them, none of them ask Merrick Garland over the last four years, one word. about Jeffrey Epstein. How ironic is that? You know why? Because Donald Trump, the Dow, the Dow right now is over, the Dow is over $50,000.

What were the issues with Pam Bondi's performance before Congress?

Tim Miller 2:18
$50,000 the Dow's over. That's the Attorney General of the United States of America having a temper tantrum on the Hill because she's not investigating any of the perpetrators of child sex trafficking.
Adam Kinzinger 2:33
Well, you know why nobody asked Merrick Garland? Because Joe Biden didn't run on Epstein Files transparency. I think they should have released him, but that's not what he ran on. Trump did. Here's the crazy thing, Tim, is they're like, hey, we're just going to take what Donald Trump ran on. OK, and I'm going to ask you if you fulfilled that. Well, screw you. You know, and I've got to just say so let me just take the broad view, which is. When we end up in a situation like we've had over this last year where these people from the administration come in, speak before Congress and have complete and utter disdain and disrespect for Congress. I get it because people hate congressmen and women and it's fun to watch them combat if you're on the side of MAGA.
Adam Kinzinger 3:17
But this is honestly how democracies can die. Thank you so much for having me. And I've seen this in kind of MAGA folks, too, particularly my old friends in Congress who got mad at me because really they were mad at themselves. Like they know inside what they should be doing. And when I was doing what they should be doing, in essence, putting a mirror up to them, their anger at themselves would be projected outward. And I honestly kind of see this in Pam Bondi where she knows what's What's going on here? She knows what she promised. She knows that she tried to cover up in March. And now she's being called out by it and not impolitely, quite honestly. And her anger at herself, maybe at Trump, maybe at the situation she's in, is projected outward.
Adam Kinzinger 4:22
If she thought that she did anything good for herself, I think she came out of that hearing quite the opposite. I think even MAGAs were sitting around going, this was a pretty bad presentation here. And I think it's only going to make it worse. Honestly, I think it's only going to grow the interest into why is she so defensive?

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