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Adam Kinzinger

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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And I take the point that most kids are not arguing about whether or not the Civil War was caused by slavery. The truth is we have bigger problems as far as making sure everybody learns math and reading properly. But I do fear that popular understandings of history really do affect ideological conclusions about the world. And they understand that.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

So they're looking back to 2020 and the George Floyd thing, and they want to prevent something like that from ever happening again. They don't want any more awakenings around the importance of discrimination in public policy to happen because that might lead to political changes. And we can make critiques about the excesses of that period and et cetera, et cetera.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

So they're looking back to 2020 and the George Floyd thing, and they want to prevent something like that from ever happening again. They don't want any more awakenings around the importance of discrimination in public policy to happen because that might lead to political changes. And we can make critiques about the excesses of that period and et cetera, et cetera.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

So they're looking back to 2020 and the George Floyd thing, and they want to prevent something like that from ever happening again. They don't want any more awakenings around the importance of discrimination in public policy to happen because that might lead to political changes. And we can make critiques about the excesses of that period and et cetera, et cetera.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

But the point is that they do not want actual factual information to reach people in a way that might make them say, well, maybe we should do something about this problem. Right. And that is actually my bigger fear, not simply that they will manage to completely prevent anybody from ever reading The Souls of Black Folk ever again. I mean, I didn't read The Souls of Black Folk till I was like 39.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

But the point is that they do not want actual factual information to reach people in a way that might make them say, well, maybe we should do something about this problem. Right. And that is actually my bigger fear, not simply that they will manage to completely prevent anybody from ever reading The Souls of Black Folk ever again. I mean, I didn't read The Souls of Black Folk till I was like 39.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

But the point is that they do not want actual factual information to reach people in a way that might make them say, well, maybe we should do something about this problem. Right. And that is actually my bigger fear, not simply that they will manage to completely prevent anybody from ever reading The Souls of Black Folk ever again. I mean, I didn't read The Souls of Black Folk till I was like 39.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

Again, this is one of the cool things about growing up in DC is that we learn things that other people didn't learn, that people didn't learn until they got to college. But again, that's part of their assault on college, right? Is that they don't want people learning those things when they get to these institutions. They don't want people learning about convict leasing. Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

Again, this is one of the cool things about growing up in DC is that we learn things that other people didn't learn, that people didn't learn until they got to college. But again, that's part of their assault on college, right? Is that they don't want people learning those things when they get to these institutions. They don't want people learning about convict leasing. Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

Again, this is one of the cool things about growing up in DC is that we learn things that other people didn't learn, that people didn't learn until they got to college. But again, that's part of their assault on college, right? Is that they don't want people learning those things when they get to these institutions. They don't want people learning about convict leasing. Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

or the true story of reconstruction or, you know, the Wilmington riot. They don't want people learning these things when they get to college. They want people learning, you know, what Stephen Miller says when he gets on the podium that America's great. It's always been great. There's never been any problems and you should shut up and like it.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

or the true story of reconstruction or, you know, the Wilmington riot. They don't want people learning these things when they get to college. They want people learning, you know, what Stephen Miller says when he gets on the podium that America's great. It's always been great. There's never been any problems and you should shut up and like it.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

or the true story of reconstruction or, you know, the Wilmington riot. They don't want people learning these things when they get to college. They want people learning, you know, what Stephen Miller says when he gets on the podium that America's great. It's always been great. There's never been any problems and you should shut up and like it.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

I'm convinced after reading a lot about history that people are basically the same in every period, but their circumstances are not the same. And I think what we've done with AI, with social media, with some other things, is we've created technologies that enhance some of our worst impulses as human beings in a way that makes democratic accountability very difficult.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

I'm convinced after reading a lot about history that people are basically the same in every period, but their circumstances are not the same. And I think what we've done with AI, with social media, with some other things, is we've created technologies that enhance some of our worst impulses as human beings in a way that makes democratic accountability very difficult.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

I'm convinced after reading a lot about history that people are basically the same in every period, but their circumstances are not the same. And I think what we've done with AI, with social media, with some other things, is we've created technologies that enhance some of our worst impulses as human beings in a way that makes democratic accountability very difficult.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And I don't have all the answers to those problems, but I think you're right. Like, no, the past does not repeat in that, you know, kind of identical way. But, you know, we can become a less literate, poor, less prosperous, more unequal and less democratic country as a result of everything that's happening now.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And I don't have all the answers to those problems, but I think you're right. Like, no, the past does not repeat in that, you know, kind of identical way. But, you know, we can become a less literate, poor, less prosperous, more unequal and less democratic country as a result of everything that's happening now.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And I don't have all the answers to those problems, but I think you're right. Like, no, the past does not repeat in that, you know, kind of identical way. But, you know, we can become a less literate, poor, less prosperous, more unequal and less democratic country as a result of everything that's happening now.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1054: Adam Serwer, Lauren Egan, and Justin Jones: The Attack on Knowledge

And I think, you know, even if this period that we're in right now has some sort of happy ending, I think, broadly speaking, that might be inevitable. I'm not sure. We'll see. Yeah.