Adam Leventhal

Yeah, definitely.

And so I think that you wonder, because clearly you need these foundational things, though, to be open source in order for this whole thing.

Python has to be open source for this whole thing to work.

right you you need to have these kind of foundational things that are open source so but it's maybe these for further or do you think that that even those things do we are do do we see a return to proprietary programming languages although i guess actually we're using the rooms that the elements invented for themselves so yeah that's right

Interesting.

Oh, interesting.

So that's a big, complicated system.

Yeah, that would be interesting, right?

If you can build a system that is that sophisticated.

Yeah, but then that does allow you, I mean, that gets you out from underneath some of the homogeneity that we've got at various levels of the system, right?

I mean, one of the questions we definitely have is what, and Simon, you and I are going back and forth on this, about whether we're going to have, is Cloud Code going to be writing kernel drivers, right?

Where the loop is more complicated there.

You don't have, some of those things that you're talking about in the browser, you don't necessarily have for something like a device driver.

It's easy.

If you can't, it's not easy.

Yeah, and with the device driver, you can, unfortunately.

It is really, really hard.

And...

Because then you have all sorts, I mean, it's not just the edge conditions.

You've got performance.