Adam Schafer

turned this, you know, sea animal into a land animal.

What do mutations typically lead to?

A common critique that I've heard is that intelligent design isn't falsifiable or testable.

You can't make predictions with it like you can with other scientific methods.

How do you answer something like that?

Are there things that we can use intelligent design to test or to make predictions?

In other words, evidence that you've had mutations over time.

It just didn't work.

I've seen images of parts of the body or mitochondria moving, and they seem to be moving like a machine across a cell, transiting information.

Do you find it interesting that, because as you're talking, I just think, you know, as the Christian Bible says, we are made in God's image, that the way that we design things, the way that we create things would, to a much lesser degree, but somewhat mirror what we're finding in nature.

Like these machines that you're describing, when we're looking at cells.

It's inherent knowledge.

Where did that come from?

It looked very much like machines that we create before we even knew that the cells were – it's not like we copied them.

How often does it happen that a scientist who starts out atheist or maybe even agnostic

And the deeper they get into their studies, the more they start to go, maybe there is a God.

Wow.

Do you think breaking your leg was a blessing?

In the end, I do.

That's great.