Adam Stachowiak

I think the design is...

I had to borrow it, honestly.

That's good.

I got a couple of things I'm working on that are, one is a DNS resolver.

And I want to like talk to the resolver.

And so the obvious answer is to have an API, right?

But then you also have to have a CLI that talks to the API.

But then I'm like, well, I'm actually using an agent.

So I'm taking a playbook from Ajay and Tiger Data and Agentic Postgres.

And well, the same CLI can can offer an MCP server running at the same time and you can talk to it and get back JSON for the agent or get back CLI response for the human.

Like the design there was so elegant.

I want to know what you know about that design.

What's going on here?

Like games like Mario, the Super Mario Brothers, the first game was like, that was why it was.

That's right.

Level one was level one.

It was teaching how to play level two and three and four.

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