Adam Tooze

And he went off down his track, and then I brought him back.

And he just point blank refuses to ask questions about Greenland and about the Fed.

Can I bring you back to Greenland?

Right.

It was as brutal a kind of, you know, pulling down the roller blinds as I've seen on a panel like this.

It's very unusual because it lays you open, right?

It's not really the more sophisticated way of just absorbing it would have been to roll with a hit and to give some kind of spiel.

I mean, it's real abuser's language.

The way they do it is to say, look, you're getting all upset.

We're just threatening you and brutalizing you, and you know what's going to happen.

We're going to sit down afterwards and make up, and then it's all going to be okay.

It's literally that kind of language of serial abusive relationships.

Like, you know, I love you actually, but you know, I had a bad night.

Yeah.

And so they will keep coming back.

And it's not clear it's really a ratchet, right?

Because China's ended up in a really remarkably favorable tariff position.

China, of course, pushed back and said like, this far and no further.

I'm agreeing.

I would agree with Ivan that this does seem like a moment where Europe might finally start moving down that route.