Adrian Weckler

And also if you break your arm in Mississippi and yeah, you don't, you don't have healthcare and you go to the hospital and you face a bill of, you know, $30,000 and you have to sell a kidney to, but anyway, that's an entirely different podcast, I'm afraid.

And I've had actually many founders on this podcast who have made that point exactly.

And in good faith, they're trying to build businesses.

And what they pick out, the problems they pick out, it's not even that it's a particular regulation.

They say there's uncertainty.

They say that regulations are being introduced without clarity

about processes that they are engaged in, which means that they cannot proceed with a process, particularly in AI.

And that means they can't get funding.

And that means that they can't hire people.

They can't build certain things for their businesses.

They have to go outside the EU to do it.

And that's kind of, that's not really cool.

That's kind of an anti-business environment to be in.

And that's a good faith argument that they make.

Yeah, interesting.

Okay.

Well, look, Aoife White writes for the European Correspondent Specialist in EU Affairs.

Thank you so much for joining us today for the podcast.

Rory Bones was on sound and JJ Clarke produced.

I'm Adrian Weckler.