Agnes Callard
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832 appearances
3 recordings
1 series
first heard Jul 2009
last heard Jun 2020
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you know, entertaining a new possibility and probably entertaining it beyond the level that they already have evidence for um to ground the truth of the claim and be like, wait, what if they were gay?
And where that that kind of obsesses them and they kind of hunt for that they're not hunting for evidence either way.
They're really hunting for evidence that they were gay.
It's just like some probably occurred to someone like, wait,
You know, these people are supposedly asexual, but that is how gay people would have looked back then, so let me look into this, right?
And they're looking into the truth of something and they're searching for it, and their search might come up empty.
But our ability to sort of sit back and respond to the evidence might be parasitic on the ability of these people who are they are in fact, I think, questioning established norms and orthodoxy, and they're even in some sense putting their own rationality on the line in a certain way by kind of jumping in at the deep end of a claim and then like seeing if they're able to swim.
I guess I think that there's a difference between being interested in the truth and being interested in avoiding the false.
And, you know, i it could be like if there's some truth about their sexuality, it's like you wanna have it.
And you're best off if you wanna have that, you're best off believing something about their sexuality.
You have no chance of getting the truth unless you believe something, right?
And so I think what the person who's sort of jumping in at the deep end is doing is they're like
kind of on the side of the truth rather than avoiding the false.
They're not being they're they're being a little bit less careful than the rest of us.
And that is what can possibly lead them to being a kind of font of evidence for us.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Yeah, so the first thing I would say is that maybe the target of aspiration is living in accordance with a different set of values.
The aspiration itself is the process of getting you there.
So it's the work that you do to acquire those values.
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