Aitor Hernandez-Morales
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first heard Jul 2026
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the social democratic movement that Pedro Sanchez is part of, she too really came down hard against Spain.
So in Spain, the reaction has been very deep frustration on the part of authorities.
They feel like the EU has failed to express sufficient solidarity with Madrid.
And the Spanish authorities that I spoke to went out of their way to point out that the situation in Ceuta, even though the images are very shocking,
is absolutely comparable to other situations that have taken place in Europe before.
And if we recall a few years ago, Belarus, for example, was sending through migrants and flooding the borders of Poland, Lithuania, and other Baltic states to create pressure.
And then several years ago, we had similar instances with Turkey and Greece.
In other words, this weaponization of migrants is not unique to this situation.
And what we saw was a lot of frustration in Madrid that EU leaders moved first to criticize Spanish authorities rather than to express solidarity with what is a very uncomfortable situation for any EU leader and especially an EU country that has the task of protecting the union's external borders.
I want to mention with that, because one thing that the Spanish authorities really insist on is that, as you may know, within the EU, we have this Schengen area that actually covers 29 countries.
And within this area, you can travel without a passport.
It's essentially a free movement zone.
So even though Spain is part of it, and technically Ceuta and the other Spanish autonomous city in Northern Africa, Melilla, are part of it,
they have special conditions whereby in order to travel to the spanish mainland you do have to have documents in other words none of these people would have made it over uh they lacked the authorization to cross the strait of gibraltar and crucially both spanish authorities and now eu authorities have confirmed that not a single one of these people made it on to the continent
So certainly the panic that was created in the rest of Europe, this idea that migrants were going to cross over to Spain and then eventually get to the UK, it's a fallacy.
It's something that was never on the table, was never possible, and certainly has not happened.
So very much indirectly, but these people have been extensively interviewed on Spanish media and just this morning I was listening to the radio.
The comment that we heard repeated over and over again by some of the people who came over was that they had heard on
line, generally on TikTok, on social media, that it was the moment to cross over.
But many of the people I listened to being interviewed admitted that they didn't really have a plan beyond that.
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