AJ McLean

That's fine.

Yeah.

But some of the guys, even to... I would say some of them to this day still...

somewhere in here have still a little bit of a chip and that's okay that's their choice you know to have that it was nasty man and and i think i think fully understanding what happened gives us even more appreciation for where you are right today yeah once everything transpired we were an open book about it like we were you know we were in i think we were in sweden

about to go back in the studio and Brian was the one that's that basically really started doing some digging and finding out like, this isn't adding up.

We're out here busting our ass, leaving our families, you know, touring, traveling, and he's making the same shit we're making.

And he's not lifting a finger plus this, this, this, and this.

So he was the one that was like, okay, I'm putting together a lawsuit.

You guys can hop on board with me or not.

Wow.

So Brian.

Brian was the catalyst for that.

And the minute we did it, Lou's instant reaction was to shut down shop.

All of our gear, he locked it up in storage.

Like everything was like shut down for a minute.

He still owned the name.

So he was threatening to keep the name.

So we would put basically money aside in escrow.

Which was his one-sixth bullshit.

And essentially, we just said, you know what?