AJ Michalka

But I'm here for you if you want to talk.

I think now in my 30s, that is how I would approach it.

But it would take me a hot minute to come to that.

Yes.

Like bravery of like, OK, we're doing this.

You'd call your sister first.

There will be times we're all like sidebar chat to her and I'll be like, just so you know, you're talking in a way that if this leads to more, you're in the wrong track.

Before Steven and Josh?

That's become more of an adult, like.

tough yeah we that's also like ladies listening i have been in that situation before when you try to break up with someone anyone whatever they don't let you go okay literally won't let you and they won't let you that means it's really bad run it's kind of like firing it's kind of like firing someone that's like you're not yeah and they're not doing this i'm not leaving what but why would you want me now like if i'm firing you're not gonna be like no that's normal like there'll be like ups and downs like sometimes like you'll you'll be in and out of love i'm like no

that ain't how it works no when someone doesn't want you listen to them and leave yes believe them oh my god okay wait so when you met Ali's husband like were you immediately you like no in the beginning I was like I think she was a little judgmental like hated there's some crossover that's happening here I was a little judgy I'm not gonna lie even though I knew Ali was gonna get out of it I was like you should have gotten out of it like six months ago and then you'd be like free and clear but whatever

But then when I, true, he turned into the husband so I'm happy and he's literally become like my brother.

Like I love him and I have so much respect for him as a husband and a dad.

Like to watch him as a father, like it's really beautiful.

But in the beginning I was like,

I don't know about this guy.

Why?

He was really shy.

He was really quiet.

I don't do great with quiet people, except for when I was translating.