Al Robertson

like in Christ I'd never been like seeing kids that vulnerable and so there was a lot of weeping and I had a hard time at first like accessing that and I remember like thinking like dead puppies like trying to make myself cry like think of something sad and manufacture that's like that'll do it dead puppies will do it yeah so I'm thinking and I was trying to make myself cry because everybody else was but after that encounter I left and it was like such a fundamental change for me

and I think that's a good segue to your book.

Uh, and then over the years, like I think I'm for a few years, I kind of dismissed that as like a camp high and I'm sure there was some immaturity to it.

Um,

but I didn't understand probably until 10 years later, really the concept, what your book is about, which is progressive sanctification.

I had understood salvation only in the category of Jesus paid for my sins so that I won't go to hell.

And I was, and that was like sustained me for 10 years maybe.

But then as I got into adulthood, I started to look for more of the healing power of Jesus's blood.

And, um,

So it's interesting that I started there at camp, but now looking back on it now, this idea of progressive sanctification, which is what your book is about, Becoming Like Jesus, to me is one of the key teachings that I think the church has missed out on in the last maybe 25, 30 years.

Do you guys ever look at the ingredients, like the ingredient label on something that you use every day?

You ever just taken a gander?

You know, I probably should do more.

What Zach does because he loves big words.

I do.

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