Alan C. Mack

You have IR threats, infrared, and that's the heat seekers.

You have radar threats, which is radar guided equipment.

Both of those you have countermeasures for, right?

You can tend to mitigate or even defeat those systems.

most often, then you have a ballistic threat, which is machine guns, rifles, uh, rocket propelled grenades, right?

Those are not guided.

If somebody shoots at you, depending on how good they are, how good their guess was, how far you are, you're going to get hit, you know?

And, uh, that's what happened to me.

It was a rocket propelled grenade came through the side of the aircraft while the seals were getting off on the top of this mountain.

Tucker Gar now called Robert's Ridge to many people.

Um,

Yeah, it wasn't anything I could do about it once it hit.

Let's see.

So my crew of...

seven, and then seven seals.

Yeah, so 14 people on board.

Yeah, it hit on my side.

I watched it come in, and it came in slow motion almost, you know, like that time compression.

You could see it.

You could see it?