Alan Carr

Yeah.

And I really thought, I highly recommend it.

And the tutor had said to me, write the stuff, write the things that make you cry.

So I did.

And it did make me cry writing that chapter.

Well, God made me bloody cry.

About my mum.

But going through that process and sort of sorting out all those experiences and,

was very helpful and beneficial.

And that MacBook ends when I'm just about to go into stand-up comedy.

And so the new book, White Male Stand-Up, is about being a white male stand-up.

And it kind of picks up, so it's sort of part two.

So it still has sad bits in it, and things are still difficult.

But they're also...

anecdotes about you know all the all the fantastic people who were my contemporaries like lee evans and harry hill yeah and i had such a wonderful time especially starting out in comedy yeah you know i remember years ago i was talking to paul merton and he was there was some talent show for new comedians they had five minutes of stuff you know

And that's just starting.

And the prize was you go into development with a production company.

And Paul said to me, that's the prize.

That's where the real hell begins.

When you're in development for two years and nothing comes of it.