Alan Shipnuck

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1,382 appearances 5 recordings 3 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 3 Jul

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Pablo Torre Finds Out · It's the End of LIV Golf as We Knew It (and Trump Feels Fine) · 12 May 2026 podcast

And there's a really interesting piece of history here where the first ever professional golf tournament in Saudi Arabia was scheduled for January of 2019.

It was the Saudi International that was dreamed up by Yassir Al Rumayyan.

It's going to be part of the European Tour schedule.

And a couple months earlier, Jamal Khashoggi was assassinated.

And the entire Western world was pulling back from the Saudis.

Jeff Bezos canceled an appearance over there.

And Ari Emanuel, he canceled the $400 million deal he'd been chasing for years.

Richard Branson pulled out of a big deal with the PIF.

And at a moment where the Saudi elite were desperate for allies, the European tour still conducted its tournament.

And that was a monumental moment when the entire regime was vulnerable.

And I think that was a fundamental moment

affirmation that golf is our friend and we can count on these guys and they can help us achieve what we want politically.

A big talking point in the first year of Liv was the sports washing and Jay Monahan, the PGA Tour commissioner famously said, you know, no one's ever had to apologize for being a member of the PGA Tour.

and they co-opted the 9-11 families and the tour leaned in heavily on that and it made sense because the tour was a proud american institution and you had these scary motherfuckers coming in and trying to take it over and so then it blew up on the on monahan specifically but the tour in general when after a year of fighting they tried to cut a deal with the public investment fund and then it was then they looked like the ultimate hypocrites yeah

The moral argument is fine until you give it up to take the money.

And in the beginning, the players were pounded with these questions about sports watching, about Khashoggi, about human rights, about MBS.

And by year two, those had mostly gone away.

And Bryson DeChambeau famously said, we're done with that.

We talked about that last year.

And it was kind of effective.

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