Alan Sisto

So, whoa, okay, what's going on here?

No, I mean, nothing happens to him.

Like, basically, Sauron's like, I'll get you later.

You're small stuff.

I got to get rid of Gondor first.

But when I'm done with that, I'll come get you.

Oh, it absolutely would have been.

This idea that he's going to get the ring, good luck with that.

In fact, we're still not told, by the way, what this good fortune is quite yet.

Tolkien continues to give us all the necessary background.

So we step back for the moment and we look at the big picture, particularly Soderman's interest in Hobbits and the Shire.

Like going into a smoke shop in Rohan someplace.

Sorry, sir.

In the Westfold.

You don't have your ID.

So he'd mocked Gandalf smoking before because he mocks everybody.

And it's something we're going to get to at length next week.

It's a really great conversation.

But because of that, he really wanted to keep this habit of his secret.

And I got to tell you, we've been kind of talking about all these moments where he's jealous of Gandalf.