Alan Sisto

But then we've got one more thing, don't we, Matt?

Now, that is what a good leader would do.

That doesn't mean Saruman's a good leader, by the way.

That's a good point.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

I've been waiting this whole episode to bring out this quote because it's one of my favorites.

A friend of the show, we did that lovely interview with him last season, Brett Devereaux.

He's got a quote on his blog, Saruman is a dummy-wummy whose plans failed because they were bad.

Yeah.

he's absolutely right and he has this wonderful flow chart i'll have to link to that that blog post where he talks about all the possible outcomes and how basically they all end up with saruman dead other than he gets the ring and it works exactly like he thinks it does which it probably doesn't

It's so good and absolutely hilarious.

He just bashes Saruman up one side and down the other.

The point is he just does not make good decisions.

But he made a good one here.

Gather intelligence.

So he uses the hobbits as well as Dunlendish men as his agents, his go-betweens, to gather news of, well, everything.

Yeah.

I mean, remember, Gandalf only found out about his treason a little while ago, right?

How long was he imprisoned in Orthanc?

And now he's escaped to Roan.