Alan Sisto

You know, his mind is just racing a thousand miles an hour trying to figure this out.

I love that.

So the idea that Gandalf does this

That there's a conversation about, you know, we're talking about important things.

You should stop smoking.

And he just, you know, poof, poof, blows the rings, reaches up.

That's so clearly something Tolkien was going to tell us in a story if you're going to figure out how to do it.

But would he also have done this part?

I don't know.

We'll see.

This is the part that's continued in one of them.

Saruman doubts whether he'd understood Gandalf's meaning here.

And I think he's right to doubt it because he's looking for, is there a connection between the hobbits and the rings of power?

But look at the timeline, right?

No.

I think you're absolutely right about the projection point there, because remember, this is the guy who thinks everybody has secrets.

Everybody else is keeping things from each other.

He doesn't think he's the only one who's like this.

He thinks everybody's like this.

Yeah.