Alan Smith

I mean, in normal circumstances with the crowd there, I mean, the week leading up to it, everybody wants to talk about it whenever you go out.

And then on the day, as soon as you come out of that tunnel, you can tell that it's something different.

There'll be nothing like that.

But you are playing your local rivals.

So that adds something to it.

And of course, for Liverpool, if Arsenal were to beat Manchester City, you know, there's a chance to win the title.

So plenty of

But yeah, I mean, totally unprecedented to have derbies under these circumstances with no crowds.

Have you scored in one of these derbies, Jolene?

Julian I was going to say Everton have obviously got a really poor record against Liverpool haven't they over the years this must be a good chance at home no crowd to right a few wrongs oh hopefully yeah they're not going to want if the outcome goes possibly bad for Man City then they're not going to want

Yeah, it was an unusual fit, wasn't it?

It didn't seem to be a natural one when they're talking about Ancelotti to Everton.

But he seems to be warming to the task, doesn't he?

He seems to understand Merseyside football and particularly what those Everton fans want.

As we all know, great atmosphere at Goodison when it's jumping.

And I'm sure he would have responded to that, Jolene.

I just wanted to talk about, I mean, the Rooney rule's been brought in, hasn't it, Jolene?

Which, you know, obviously under those circumstances, you need to interview a person from a BAME background.

But that doesn't really seem, it almost seems as if it's, well, it's a bit of tokenism and it's not really worked, has it, over the short period that it's been in existence.

So.