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And I'm sure he would have responded to that, Jolene.
I just wanted to talk about, I mean, the Rooney rule's been brought in, hasn't it, Jolene?
Which, you know, obviously under those circumstances, you need to interview a person from a BAME background.
But that doesn't really seem, it almost seems as if it's, well, it's a bit of tokenism and it's not really worked, has it, over the short period that it's been in existence.
So.
in the upper echelons of our game.
I mean, there seemed to be a good length of time where racism wasn't heard, racist chants or anything in football grounds, especially at the top level.
But over the last, I don't know, couple of years, we had the incident at Chelsea, didn't we?
We had the one at Manchester City.
And for whatever reason, it seems to have crept back into football grounds.
I don't know what that reason is.
Yeah, well, I mean, I'd actually forgotten he did come back to Spurs, but looking at these goals now, looking at these goals, it all comes flooding back.
I mean, he was a big favourite of the fans and it's his desire as much as anything else, even into his 30s.
It's just his love of the game, which I think is infectious to the dressing room and to the fans.
And of course, Klinsman spent most of his career at the top, hasn't he?
And so scrapping at the bottom takes a different sort of attitude, different sort of game.
And, you know, really to dig in.
And he showed the tenacity and the desire to do that, which some players that have lived all their lives at the top of the tree, you know, they don't want to dirty their hands down at the bottom.
Players like you smudge, you mean?
Yeah, and there was a lot of conjecture, wasn't there, Julian, about maybe Guardiola moving on this summer.