Alan Waxman

We always talk about that when we're interviewing people.

First of all, are they over themselves yet?

Which again, in our industry, there's a lot of people not over themselves yet.

Maybe they'll listen to this and get over themselves.

That's a whole other topic.

But what do you introduce into a family member?

That to me is more important than anything is maintaining that and wherever that journey takes us,

That's where it will take us.

But again, for our business, we're an investing business.

Those things are what make up us trying to drive what we believe fundamentally, religiously, because we've been doing it for 25 plus years, great outcomes for our LPs.

And if we can do that and ultimately serve your customer, which in our case is our LPs, our people, we do all those things.

That's where it will take us.

To be clear, we have five-year strategic plans and very specific objectives, but that's what I think about on the horizon.

And I've shared that broadly with our entire firm because it's how I think about it.

And you got to be able to adapt because think about software engineers.

Every mom and dad in Palo Alto three years ago was telling their kids they had to do software engineers and now tell them not to do software.

Things can change and you got to be adapted.

And we're headed into interesting times here.

I think I'm gonna have to say the Stephen Plus.

Being 15 years older than me and taking time to answer all my questions and