Alastair Campbell
speaker
805 appearances
1 recordings
1 series
first heard Jul 2026
last heard 15 Jul
Alastair Campbell’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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And one of the things this guy, Danny Orkinson, said, actually, yes, China is emitting more, but China is also driving the renewables agenda in a way that is off-the-scale good.
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need to be part of that and you're actually yes you're right there's gonna be this other countries who have got far bigger energy needs than ours are actually both creating more emissions and driving faster faster forward on on renewables and where i did where i really did disagree with tony in his in his essay uh was when when he's he made the one percent point
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um and yet he's the guy who back in the day rightly in my view was saying that just because we are only this in relation to the size of the global economy does not mean that we can't take a lead in the time on overseas aid and development which we did
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And I think that we should still be using arguments like that.
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Just because we are no longer one of the biggest powers in the world does not mean we're not still seen as a leader.
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no but but it's but no i don't i don't but but i don't believe it's necessary you don't think it's had a negative economic impact so far i think energy prices have yeah but they're not related to net zero not in this is a very small part of the the stuff that's driven up our energy prices so no it's not you've got to you this is why i say these things are you know you've got to address this in in the round and our economy we energy is going to become the big challenge for all of our countries
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And, you know, so there's Trump saying drill, baby, drill.
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We don't have that.
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Even if we wanted to frack on the level that they do, we don't have the reserves.
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We have oil in the North Sea.
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The oil in the North Sea.
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Just check out the oil in the North Sea.
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is the the one it's not going to come if you wish to go and drill all this stuff away they say drill baby drill in the north sea it's gonna be years before you get anything that's fine it's not fine if you can do other stuff with the money you've got which is what which is renewables but the problem with the rc is important to our energy because of the wind that blows there
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Okay, we're going to have much, that is going to be much more important to our long-term energy needs than... We just had an energy expert called Scott Tinker on the show.
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Look, it's a label.
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Like net zero is a label.
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It's the label.
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Let's just say oil, wind, and solar every time.
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Well, weirdly, I'm going to say that I don't think we talk enough about politics.
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in the context of why politics matters why politics for all its faults is so necessary and important and why we need to encourage more and more people genuinely to be engaged in politics i mean really engaged in politics because i i i worry that the way our debate is going the real the the thing that's underlying a lot of the stuff that we've been talking about
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