Alastair Campbell

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805 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 15 Jul

Alastair Campbell’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Should have protected key industries. matched
yeah possibly but what is that what does that mean in the modern industrial age it means that you would have been slightly less prosperous or you would have had a slightly lower gdp which is a hard sell but you would have not had whole regions of america and the north of england effectively losing uh the entire and then and what would have happened on the bigger picture in terms of the relationship between matched
china and the rest of the world so if you look at the kind of example i'll give you another example just to show you the kind of real politic of this where again i think i'll acknowledge that we were well i i don't know whether the word is naive or we made mistakes or whatever you take our relationship with russia okay so we met putin before he became president and based partly on advice but also based on you know seeing the guy's eyeballs and talking to him matched
I think Tony reached a judgment that this could be okay. matched
This could work, okay? matched
We were very right at the forefront, for example, of trying to persuade the rest to make them G7 into G8, okay? matched
Back then, that felt like the right decision. matched
And it felt like that was taking us and them in a better direction. matched
You look at that decision today, or you look at the German relationship in relation to the energy markets today, and you think, what were you guys doing? matched
So when on our podcast, we interviewed matched
widows both of litvinenko and of navalny we've talked to them both they both said we think you were naive right okay now and that's a perfectly good judgment they both lost their husbands because these guys killed them um and yet there we were you know toasting each other with vodka and tony was playing this silly snooker game with him and you know all sorts of stuff we got closer matched
So all I'm saying is that you make the decision, you take the strategic choice at the time, and then the consequences are sometimes... Alistair, we haven't brought you here to... No, I know that. matched
because nothing that a politician does at any moment of time stays in that time. matched
Of course, of course. matched
I mean, the truth is that Trump is in part a consequence of, I think it's a consequence of the fact that America had a black president in part. matched
I think one of the reasons that Hillary got rejected was because people thought, Jesus, they gave us a black guy. matched
I'm not taking a woman as well. matched
Some people, okay? matched
So you have consequences. matched
So I'm happy to defend the stuff that we did, but I'm also happy to admit that, matched
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