Alastair Campbell

I've had more than one person from within the BBC say, go for it.

Here's a question for you, Rory.

How important do you think a voice is in public life?

The physical voice.

Because I thought Samir Shah's voice was a real problem yesterday.

He just sounded really weak.

So when the thing being put towards him is giving weak leadership of the BBC at a time of crisis, it didn't really help.

The committee didn't do a good job, though.

I'm sorry, but it was...

It was just a sort of friendly chat with them all.

Apparently, Caroline Dynage is the chair of the committee.

She was on the Westminster Hour or 10 o'clock news on the radio, apparently, and said that she didn't think the board was in safe hands.

So maybe that was the judgment they discussed afterwards.

But I think that the witnesses will have left thinking, because they did prepare, and the message they wanted to get out was that we're united.

We care about the BBC, but there was no, that's why I gave up.

It just wasn't forensic.

It wasn't a proper interrogation.

Which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.

Wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to say that politicians should be ruled out.

But yeah, it was very, very, very disappointing.