Alastair Campbell

For two passionate pro-Europeans, I worry about how little we look at European politics.

Because we are now experiencing a phenomenon which we've seen in continental European politics over the last decade.

It's been building over the last decade, which is this real bifurcation of politics.

You look at the last German elections.

And because De Linca and AFD kind of counterbalanced each other, you end up with a sensible centrist, you know, centrist dad kind of coalition.

But the vote split...

the vote split very hard to the hard left and to the hard right.

And that's being replicated across Europe.

You see the French presidential elections, the last set and the set that are coming up, same phenomenon.

So it's not unique to British politics.

They're saying, oh, was it Liz?

Was it Boris?

Well, that wouldn't explain why it's happening in other European countries.

And again, you see this in the States.

Now, because of the way their party branding works rather than their party system,

People describe President Trump as a Republican president, but he's from outwith the tradition of the US Republican Party.

So we're seeing this across mature democracies.

So I don't think it's uniquely about us.

That doesn't mean to say we can go, oh, it's not our fault.

We could just move on.