Aleks Krotoski

Oh, yeah.

It's absolutely faith.

It is 100% religion.

And I mean, I sort of laugh at myself for not realizing that when I came into this.

And then it suddenly became blindingly clear when I was watching this guy walking around on stage at a longevity conference and

People were, it was like I was at a revival.

That's a thing that happens in the States amongst evangelical Christians.

It's like I was watching a preacher riling up the crowd, talking about, and I can give you eternal life.

And I was like, I grew up Catholic.

I've seen this before.

Yeah.

You were just wearing different clothing.

And it was at that moment that I kind of went, wow, actually, no.

It is charismatic.

It is giving people what so many religions, not all religions, what so many religions provide is this idea of you can have some kind of glory if you do this thing.

And I can give it to you.

It's fascinating.

What actually became very clear as I was writing the book is that there is

inherently an ageism associated with this entire movement.

And the ageism is not just from the people who want to live forever, but it's also the system in general.