Alex Aljo

But I've heard that during this trip to Jeddah, the players weren't taking things overly seriously and then walking out of video sessions and not wanting to listen to Xabi Alonso and...

And anything he had to say, which is obviously the beginning of the end when your players aren't listening to the manager.

Of course.

And I think that's what they were saying.

An example is I was there at the Classico back in October when Vinicius Junior wasn't happy about coming off the bench and he made it very clear.

And he should have been benched for the next game.

You know, the way he spoke to his manager in front of everyone that day.

And it was not a good look and he should have been disciplined.

He should have been benched.

But Xabi Alonso did not have the power to bench him the next game, which was against Valencia.

So I think he started that game.

Double check that.

We're talking about Florentino Perez here overruling Xabi Alonso, who I'm sure wanted to

You bench Vinicius because you can't behave like that, can you?

The way Vinicius Jr.

behaved that day.

But from what I heard, these talks were already happening prior to the trip to Jeddah, before the new year.

I'm actually hearing that he's being linked to Liverpool.

And they're very good friends.

They're really, really good friends.