Alex Berman

He went fully insane to the point where he was committed to a mental hospital.

And two, three months of nobody running the company and me not having access to bank account to refund customers, me not having access to anything would be enough to basically ruin the company's rep and shut it down.

Yes.

Eight grand.

And then lead shark, which is part of Omni is also doing about 4k a month.

So we're making 12k a month.

What's lead shark?

Lead shark is the lead generation database.

So Omni handles all the sending and then lead shark is where you can buy the leads.

Interesting.

In your space, in our space, maybe.

In the SMB space, though, people are down to spend the 49 bucks or Leechark used to be nine bucks a month just to get access.

So it's really more of an SMB play.

And then any sort of MarTech, any sort of marketing technology just comes down to sales.

Like you said, you listed like three of them.

What's the difference between Clearbit and ZoomInfo?

Everyone buys everyone's data.

It's just who can package it better and who can sell it better.

yeah, which salesperson do you like better?

Which salesperson is a better closer?