Alex Cooper

And like, it seems like you didn't really have anyone to talk to.

I just didn't have the tools to talk.

Well, I think also because like you just said, like then you just kind of go on the run and you're like, I've got to figure myself out.

I've got to get through this.

And you don't, no one has time to fucking like think about their childhood until you finally can breathe a little bit and be like, what happened back then?

Yeah.

And it's also like to your father's credit.

And I have had people in my life like this where clearly whatever happened in his life, he was able to kind of plug those wounds with being like, if I can be so successful, if I can get money and status, that will help me.

And you're like, wait, the material things don't mean anything to me.

You really do.

And I remember in one of your past interviews, you said, I didn't feel like I had the right to feel.

I didn't want to cause any more pain.

I'm like, whoa, that's a really heavy burden to carry as a child to basically force yourself not to feel.

If you look back at that time in your life, what traits or habits do you think you kind of developed in response to being like, don't feel, don't feel, don't cause anyone pain?

Right, like have someone validate you and be like, oh, you must be in so much pain.

I have a past, look.

Right.

I'm broken, pain now.

Oh my God.

Yeah.