Alex Cooper

And I have had people in my life like this where clearly whatever happened in his life, he was able to kind of plug those wounds with being like, if I can be so successful, if I can get money and status, that will help me.

And you're like, wait, the material things don't mean anything to me.

You really do.

And I remember in one of your past interviews, you said, I didn't feel like I had the right to feel.

I didn't want to cause any more pain.

I'm like, whoa, that's a really heavy burden to carry as a child to basically force yourself not to feel.

If you look back at that time in your life, what traits or habits do you think you kind of developed in response to being like, don't feel, don't feel, don't cause anyone pain?

Right, like have someone validate you and be like, oh, you must be in so much pain.

I have a past, look.

Right.

I'm broken, pain now.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

That's so, that's sad, right?

As a kid.

I know, but I also think that is something that humans, and it is frustrating, and I think especially as women, there's a lot of this of like, when the pain is not something that someone can tangibly and like physically see,

you are dismissed and you're discarded and it's like oh you're being dramatic and so really it's it's they're all the repression of the quote i read of you being like i literally tried not to feel eventually your body was like we have to expel this we have to do something like an exorcism right yeah it has to come out and also my my trait was

It's like, give love to my mother, be there for her.

Everybody wait for her to come home.

Yeah, and escape.