Alex Davies-Jones

Which you, I think, had gone to see.

And I haven't yet seen, so no spoilers.

No, he went with Peter Kyle, one of his political friends.

Ah, parallels.

Can you just tell us, is it an appropriate ending without giving anything away?

OK, I feel like I'm going to have to go and watch it just so we can finish this conversation, even in private.

Do you think Henry knew he was quoting Mel C or do you think it was just a phrase that popped into his head?

Because I feel like your pop culture knowledge would have allowed you to realise that was a Mel C quote.

Not everybody might have picked up on that, including me.

It was a bit chaotic, to be blunt.

It was very noisy.

It was a bit frantic because what we basically had was after we'd had this kind of, I don't know when you call it, a drip, a trickle, a flow, whatever, of Labour MPs coming out and basically expressing their very clear dissatisfaction with the prime minister.

He had this meeting of the cabinet this morning.

So you basically had in Downing Street, cabinet minister after cabinet minister walking up the street, getting hollered at by journalists, trying to get a sense of where they were on the authority and position of the prime minister.

Then they all went in for the cabinet meeting and then they all came out.

And the kind of extraordinary thing there was,

was that a bunch of them, not all of them, I should say, but a bunch of cabinet ministers then came out and walked over to the waiting hordes of cameras and journalists and spoke to them to shore up the prime minister's position.

And just to say, that does not normally happen.

Yeah, it was basically we have to get on with the business of governing.

And they were coming out to say the prime minister's got my support.