Alex DeGrasse

but particularly since the Russian invasion.

So very difficult quagmire to work your way out of, and there aren't great options when you put yourself in a corner.

I believe, though, that President Trump is choosing the best option here through negotiation and diplomacy.

I think this 28-point plan, while not perfect, is... Hang on.

Okay, regarding the security guarantee, Steve, realize the United States never has to take any military action that we do not want to take, right?

So we can always analyze at the time, is it appropriate for the United States to act?

And what we say in November of 2025 does not mean that we have to act in November of 2026 or 2030 going forward.

So let's just be realistic about that, right?

A negotiation tactic...

Ben, you're actually making my point, though, that there is no authority that can force the United States to act.

I mean, you're making my point, right?

Neither President Trump nor any American president, just because of a pledge that was made in November of 2025, needs to take any action that is not directly in the interest of the United States.

We always have full sovereignty over how we use our forces.

That's just reality, right, going forward.

I've got you.

Yes, yes, I've got you.

Exactly, exactly, yeah.

Listen, Zelensky is a corrupt tyrant.

He's in an incredibly weak position domestically, the weakest he's been in in his entire tenure.

This is exactly the time for President Trump to press him and to effectively compel him to accept the terms, the American negotiated terms,